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Old 12-18-2009, 02:41 PM
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LGs make good monitor/ tv combos .... from what I have read.
I think rwm is doing this with great success!
I might have to give that a try!
No complaints with my 42" LG TV and 20" iMac (2008)


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Old 01-13-2010, 07:09 PM
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Talking Hello!!! ..... Is anybody .... Out there?????? ........

Thought I'd better get-on with this post, before a different personality kicks-in ............... maybe .... it already has!!!!

We all have a free pass ........ on the ship of fools!

NEC 23" IPS EA231WMi monitor:
Here is a quick review/contribution to this thread:

IPS verses TN panels:

First, read this thread to get an overall feel for the monitor and its quirks (what few there are).
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1436160

PROS:
1. No dead pixels.
2. Picture is crisp and beautiful. Text is crisp and blu-rays look great. DVD...well.... look like DVD's ..... I bought it for PS and camera!
3. The stand and housing are great. No reflective, shiny business going on here. A very sturdy stand.
4. Brightness adjustability is good.
5. I just keep the monitor in sleep mode or have the screen saver on.
6. Comes with a DVI and vga cable.
7. Sturdy packaging for no worries shipping.


CONS:
1. Color uniformity can be, I'm not sure if this would be an issue had I not read through this thread. My monitor is definitely not as bad as others, but just knowing that it has a little bit of an issue bugs me. But not enough to return the monitor and "play the lottery".

2. Backlight bleed. Not to bad with this monitor.... but it is there. Unfortunately, this is a problem with all LCD monitors (some to a greater extent than others). I't doesn't distract while watching movies or basically anything.

3. No HDMI to DVI cable included....... Cheap-ooooooos!
4. Have to download the users manual.

So basically, the monitor is not perfect.... but with LCDs none are .... unless you want to spend upwards of $3-4000.00.

Gamers beware!!
Respones time is 14ms. I don't think you would be satisfied .... if your into FAST paced games! ....... but, I don't play games .... but .... I watch a lot of fast action movies.
I have never used the monitor .... in game mode (which it has) so I really can't say for sure! .... but, have read, pretty darn GOOD!


For $330.00 to my door, I'm quite impressed.

Check this out also: http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/response_time.php and http://www.jscreenfix.com/basic.php and http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/nec_ea231wmi.htm and http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/icc_profiles.htm.

Keep in mind, that this is my first LCD .... but .... I have some basic requirements that have to prevail!

All I can really say is .... I'm satisfied for quality verses price verses RGB color set!

If you want to know what you monitor is doing color wise .... Make a screen of different grays .... stand back and look .... are both sides the same shade or are they different? and what about RGB?

Try as white screen.

Your probable not all that interested .... and it might just spoil you day ..... so beware!!

Keep in touch!
Good talking to ya .... BYE!
h


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Old 01-14-2010, 03:03 PM
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Check this:
TFT Technology Breakdown and Model/Panel Index
LCD Panel Technology Type and Characteristics

TN film (Twisted Nematic)
- low manufacturing/retail costs
- restrictive viewing angles
- fast pixel response times
- dead pixels display white. Stuck pixels display RGB colors
- lower contrast levels means blacks are not as dark as VA based panels
- lower color reproduction

IPS (In Plane Switching)
- improved viewing angles over TN
- very good color reproduction
- slower pixel response times than TN
- dead pixels display black
- lower contrast levels means blacks are not as dark as VA based panels

Super-IPS (S-IPS)
- same as IPS except ...
- likely best color reproduction of all TFT
- less expensive to produce than IPS
- improved pixel response
VA (Vertical Alignment) Technologies

MVA (Multidomain Vertical Alignment)
- compromise between TN and IPS technologies
- superior color reproduction over TN but not as good as IPS
- very good viewing angles but less than IPS
- higher contrast than TN or S-IPS means very good blacks
- dead pixels are black
- slower pixel response than TN or IPS
- details can be lost when directly viewing dark areas
Premium-MVA (P-MVA)
- same as MVA except ...
- "overdrive" technology increases pixel response but still slower than TN
- may have slightly degraded color reproduction due to "overdrive" process

PVA (Patterned VA)
- same as MVA except ...
- larger viewing angles
- higher contrast levels means darkest blacks

Super-PVA (S-PVA)
- same as PVA except ...
- “Magic Speed” (the Samsung equivalent to Overdrive) improves pixel response
- slightly improved color reproduction
- slightly improved viewing angles

Purchasing Considerations

TN Gamers
Considered a "gamers" panel due to it's fast pixel response times which reduces trailing images know as "ghosting". However, this advantage has been reduced by new technologies to accelerate pixel response times in other panel types. Colors and contrast tend to be weak and blacks are not truly dark. Viewing angles are significantly limited. However, monitors based on this technology tend to be inexpensive.

IPS / S-IPS Graphics Work or Web Browsing
Considered to have the best color reproduction of all panel types, these panels are well suited for graphics work or web browsing. Pixel response time is also good but slower than the TN "gamers" panel. Contast and blacks are also less dark than VA panels but viewing angles are excellent.

MVA / P-MVA / PVA / S-PVA Compromise for All-Around Use
These panels are a compromise between the fast pixel response times of the TN panel and the excellent color reproduction of the IPS panels. Contrast and blacks are best of all the panel types. Viewing angles are similar but slightly inferior to IPS.

I just copied this from another site .... I know some of this, so I believe them.
Sounds "good" to me .... butt like before .... this is my first LCD!

h


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Yes, just waiting to see if you like your purchase.


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I'm satisfied for quality verses price verses RGB color set!

Still trying to calibrate the colors .... with-out a meter.
Not interested in a $100.00-150.00 color meter for this task.

I bought this for PS and right now am using PS calibration.
Im not making any prints so far .... but, if and when, that will be the real test ....

The colors are great .... but Internet color scheme is some what limited.

Black matt finish on the frame is ideal.... easy on the old eyes!

Matt finish on the screen, I'd probable like a gloss finish .... but I guess those days are over ..... unless one springs for an CRT.

I'm pretty happy about my purchase .... she's a keeper .... so far!

Thanks, h


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